Yes I HAVE heard Mac users rant (and rant) about how much they hate Windows. And of course, there is plenty of Windows vs. Mac to go around (although I think the Linux geeks are by far the worst. With their tired and decidely UNclever "WinDOZE" and Micro$oft/M$). Ultimately, my opinion is that Apple does build a really nice machine. Well designed and very capable and, frankly, pretty cool looking. Truth be told, I like Macs. It's MAC USERS I can't take.